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Excentrique: how to order & quality review

Sorry for deserting this community for so long, today I will be doing a review on one of my favourite brands, Excentrique!

Context:

Though they are most famous for their corsets, they also make a lot of beautiful dresses, blouses and skirt suits. They are also one of the more 'size-friendly' classic brands, making both S/M/L (Japanese size 7-11) with very good tailoring and workmanship. As a whole, their prices are on the price-ier end of lolita (closer to Juliette et Justine or Moitie prices) but are well worth the cost.

Site: http://excentrique.shop7.makeshop.jp/
Blog: http://blog.excentrique.biz/
Distributors: http://yaplog.jp/f_l_a_s_c_o/
Twitter: http://twitter.com/excentriqueLtd



1. You require a shopping service to purchase from Excentrique, I personally like to use i-TM4U. Kaoru-san has always been extremely helpful and commuicative, plus she has helped me buy from various indies/otome brands before. You can read my review of her Jane Marple service here I have also listed some common shopping services which I have used as well.

2. To find their less corset-ed items, click on the 'Coordinate Items'. Some of their items will have several sizes, some don't. On the whole, S/M is Japanese size 7-9 while M/L is 9-11.

A standard Japanese mannequin....
size 7 is; bust: 80 waist 62
size 9 is; bust: 84 waist 64 *most common mannequin used/MEDIUM
size 11 is; bust: 88 waist: 66

Please remember these are MANNEQUIN sizes and not normal body sizes. It should be a rough guideline to how the item will fall on you, depending on which size you are closest to.

The sizing listed is the OUTER GARMENT SIZING and not the body size. To find the body size, -4cm (or 2 inches) from the actual size given ie.

GARMENT SIZE - 4CM/2INCHES = BODY SIZE

バスト/bust :95cm = 91cm
アンダーバスト/underbust: 83.8cm = 79cm
肩巾/Sleeve: 3cm
背肩巾/Back 33.5cm = 28.5cm
着丈/length 97.1cm、
スカート丈/skirt length 59.2cm


This is quite common in classic brands, I believe Victorian Maiden and Innocent World also put Garment Sizes and not body sizes on their website.

3. After you have chosen your item, colour and correct size. Contact your shopping service.

In my case, I would contact i-TM4U Since it is a shopping service item, I would use their Form A You will usually recieve an automatic email to pay, after which Kaoru-san will shop for you.

You can read more about their shopping procedure here: http://www.i-tm4u.biz/system/system.html

In general I like to use their service because it's fast, professional and systematic. Here are some of what I feel about the different services.

Mai

-tends to overcharge (20% commission + added fees) plus as a personal service, she does not always reply on time and is very busy. Also she has purchased the wrong item for me before during a winter sale. Auction service is not real time.

- on the plus side, she is willing to do fukubukuro service and shop for sale items on web-blogs. She also does not have a minimum cost before going to a physical store. I also really like the free gifts that she throws in depending on your order. She also does auctions for Y!J and mbok.

Crescent

- has a very high starting price (12% onwards plus crappy exchange rate) and is only willing to do webshop/telephone orders. They will not go into stores or do fukubukuro/sale service. Will not do mbok auctions. Will not mark down for customs.

- on the plus side, they will combine orders for up to 2 months (pretty much indefinitely lol) and you can use their auction service at the same time. They do not require upfront payment either, so long as you put a deposit. Their auction service is also real-time, so you can increase your bid whenever you please.

Celga

- by far the worst service. Overcharges shipping (8,000y for 4 items), abysmally rude service and miscalculates comission cost. They have also purchased the wrong colour for an item before, and their form is also very unstable. Auction service is not real time.

- plus side, willing to do mbok and y!J auctions combined. Requires payment within a week.

i-TM4U

- will only combine items for up to two weeks, and they only work 4 days a week. (Wed/Sun/Mon = not working days). They will only go to a physical store if your total order is ~25,000jpy or 15,000 for members. Auction service is not real time.

- plus side; they can do Y!J and mbok auctions (and do a combined shipping) as well as mark down customs. System is quick and efficent because of the Form A/B/auction which you just have to fill up. They also do not overcharge shipping and ship in a plastic bag which is much lighter than a cardboard box.

After you have chosen your item and sent your request, what can you expect from an Excentrique item?



Quality&fit review

I requested the chocolate box JSK (cream) from their 2009 A/W Belle Russe collection. Because the M/L sold out, I bought the S/M instead. For reference, I'm bust:90 waist:68 height:160 and I can wear both their S/M and M/L sizes.

Stock Image:



Their website is flash based and doesn't allow right-click save. You can either screencap it, or go look at their blog for a similar image. The stock pic I have is the dress in mauve.

Flat:



This is the closest to the true colour. It's not really a cream or an offwhite, more like ecru? It's more yellow than IW's offwhite, but less yellow than a pure cream. This image was taken in daylight, on a cloudy day (which is why it looks a bit more blue for some reason :x)

* The rest of the photos are taken at NIGHT, which is why the images look so yellow.

Print detail:





The fabric is fairly thick and made of polyester (kinda the same as moitie, but smoother). It has a subtle stripe jacquard woven as texture and the print is not pasty or stuck-on. In general it feels very smooth and silky.

All the ribbon-detailing at the collar, waist and hem is cupra, not gosgrain or satin. I'm not sure how to describe cupra but it is a matte silk-subsituite fabric. It has a very nice weight to it and because it's matte, when I tie the waist ribbon the fabric won't slip and make my ribbon fall apart. You'll see a lot of otome-kei items made of Cupra in late summer/autumn; it's a popular fabric because it has a matte shine to it and wears well. The waist ribbon has been nicely sewn at the edges to prevent fraying as well.

The print is crisp and sharp. There aren't any weird colour bleeds or fuzzy edges despite the detailing. You can read most of the font printed on the dress, and my favourite is the 'Belle Russe' poster with Nijinsky on it lol.

Tag and lining:





Tag is cloth, with 'Excentrique' written in gold script.

The lining is really nice. Nicer than the VM/Beth dress I used to have anyway. I think it's the same lining that JaneMarple/Emily Temple Cute/Innocent World/Mary Magdalene uses. In general, it feels very smooth and light, and not sticky. You know how some lining tends to stick on your skin? It doesn't have a plasticky feel either. I would prefer a cream lining to match with the cream dress, but it's not a big big deal.

The lining is sewn properly as well; all edges are nicely sealed and the lining follows the pleating pattern as well. Here you can see the construction details: princess seamed bodice, pleated box skirt. There's enough give/seam allowance near the zipper so the zipper won't get stuck even at the thickest part of the fabric (usually where the bodice meets waist). So far I've had no problems zipping it up and down even by myself, and I'm a klutz in the morning lol~ it's a nice smooth invisible zip.

dress worn:



*sorry for messy bolero, will try to take a better one next time :x

Fit is great. I like my skirts longer, so I have no problems with their longer-than-usual skirt length. Overall I'm very happy with my purchase, and will buy from Excentrique again. I like their designs and range of sizes, it's classic without being boring(?) I just like prints. It's also rather versatile, without a petticoat and blouse and a simple cardigan it could easily work as a day dress or work dress. You can take the ribbon out at the waist and put a big belt for more cinched modern look. It's fairly comfortable, I basically have no problems with it. Additionally, because it's polyester it doesn't crease and is slightly waterproof.

If you have any other questions, I will do my best to answer them. I will also be posting scans of Excentrique after my exams are over :D

cheers,
tsu
Tags: excentrique, review

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  • 21 comments

[info]malicemizer_luv

June 9 2010, 20:36:21 UTC 1 year ago

Thaat jsk is gorgeous on you! <3

[info]malicemizer_luv

June 9 2010, 20:37:44 UTC 1 year ago

That**

[info]tsu_

June 9 2010, 20:45:08 UTC 1 year ago

thank you ^^

[info]pekkochan

June 9 2010, 20:40:36 UTC 1 year ago

Thanks for posting this! I love excentrique. Do you happen to know if they have a store in Yokohama? Good luck on your exams! I'm about to take my last two ;)

[info]tsu_

June 9 2010, 20:44:47 UTC 1 year ago

I don't think they have a main store there, but KERA select shop stocks their items as well. Kera Yokohoma site: http://kerashopyokohama.seesaa.net/

If not you can order from the webshop and they will send it to you with COD.

[info]lolidolly

June 9 2010, 21:06:47 UTC 1 year ago

Thank you so much for posting this! You answered a lot of questions that I didn't even think about. I also really appreciate the breakdown of the different shopping services. This has definitely given me more confidence about ordering something from them as there are plenty of things I would like.

[info]tarais

June 9 2010, 21:21:57 UTC 1 year ago

Thank you so much for this! The next time I'm going to try to order from i-TM4U, 'cause this isn't the first time I read that they have an amazing shopping service ;)

[info]xbiteyourtongue

June 9 2010, 22:06:16 UTC 1 year ago

the jsk looks so great on you!

good luck on your finals!

[info]addictive_sugar

June 9 2010, 22:06:52 UTC 1 year ago

well gee, thanks, now i want that dress :p thanks a lot for the review! super useful & informative.

[info]tsu_

June 9 2010, 22:29:01 UTC 1 year ago

I'm not sure how popular the dress is on second hand sales, but the series name is 'chocolate box' (written in english). You can still find the OP and blouse on excentrique's website: http://excentrique.shop7.makeshop.jp/shopdetail/006000000115/order/ (blouse) and http://excentrique.shop7.makeshop.jp/shopdetail/006000000114/order/ (OP)

[info]addictive_sugar

June 10 2010, 12:10:22 UTC 1 year ago

thanks a lot for the info!

[info]insertevilname

June 9 2010, 22:35:18 UTC 1 year ago

Thanks for all the information! For some reason I didn't know that they carried larger sizes too, now I'm tempted to buy from them (oh crap XD).
And I can't get over how gorgeous that dress is. ♥

[info]tsu_

June 9 2010, 22:41:04 UTC 1 year ago

Most of their sizes start quite large actually, their corsets also come in multiple sizes. You can check their size chart on their webshop as reference.

[info]sugarcreamcandy

June 9 2010, 23:46:07 UTC 1 year ago

fucking adorable ;0;
your outfit is sooo cute and the jsk looks beautiful on you!

[info]kyomu

June 10 2010, 02:18:12 UTC 1 year ago

Thanks for the review! I agree that I-TM4U is really a good shopping service, I have ordered a lot of VM items from them and never had a problem. I have wanted to order Excentrique's non-corset items for a long time, they always have such delightful photo shoots! Hopefully I will finally get a job and be able to lol!

[info]duplica_chan

June 10 2010, 09:21:27 UTC 1 year ago

Am I allowed to post repost this link in a german lolita blog for information= ^^

[info]tsu_

June 10 2010, 15:16:47 UTC 1 year ago

sure! please credit it back to the [info]lolita_indies community thank you

[info]gurololi

June 10 2010, 11:16:59 UTC 1 year ago

Thanks for this review!! And btw, you look gorgeous <3 that dress is stunning *_*

[info]go_slow_ly

June 10 2010, 12:30:47 UTC 1 year ago

I drooled over that dress when I saw it for the first time in Tokyo last summer! It's gorgeous!! And much prettier than the other lolita dresses with frame motifs that came out afterwards... thanks for the review =D

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[info]tsu_

June 10 2010, 17:28:00 UTC 1 year ago

I find it the same too~ their sizing fits me even better than IW does, even though IW has a larger range of sizes. It's just the cutting I think.

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[info]tsu_

June 10 2010, 21:03:16 UTC 1 year ago

yeah same. My underbust is 80cm, and no matter how much weight I lose it will never shrink (I have no problems with VM/MM skirts, it's their underbust I have problems with)

I'll say that JetJ's cutting is very boxy and thankfully quite forgiving for their size2. I don't think you would have a problem with that. I find VM/MM have very small underbusts (75cm max) so even if the dress fit, it would be difficult to zip up. I used to have MM's titiana JSK in blue, and everything fitted really well except for that. I would zip up the side first, then slide my arm to fit it in. Otherwise it'll just be too tight even if there was room at the waist.
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